- Clarice interviews one of Frederika's friends, Stacy, to see if she knows Jamie Gumb.
- Nope.
- However, Stacy does mention a Mrs. Lippman, whom they used to do alterations for.
- Back at Bill's lair, he plays with one of his creepy moths, pulling it from its cocoon and putting it on its face.
- Precious yips. Bill follows the noise to the hole, where Catherine finally has the dog!
- Things aren't looking good for Bill. The FBI is surrounding the house, too.
- Bill lowers the bucket, but Catherine won't put the dog in it.
- She wants a live telephone line, or she'll kill the dog.
- Bill gets his gun, but the FBI rings the doorbell. How polite.
- Bill opens the door... and it's Clarice. The FBI has the wrong house.
- She asks the creepy man if he knows Mrs. Lippman, and he says the Lippmans don't live there anymore.
- Clarice informs him that she's investigating the death of Frederika Bimmel, and his name is?
- He says it's Jack Gordon.
- Clarice asks if he knew Frederika. He says no, then, "Oh wait… was she a great big fat person?" Charming.
- He says Mrs. Lippman had a son, and he has his number somewhere. Maybe Clarice should come inside the big creepy serial killer's lair.
- She does.